(Office of the Children’s Lawyer) The wicked witch of the East has been found: In Oshawa


The Office of the Children’s Lawyer is a law office in the Ministry of the Attorney General that is suppose to provide justice on behalf of children under 18.  This office and those representing it, the clinical investigators, prepare reports for the court in a custody/access proceeding to assist lawyers who are representing the children in court, such as the Family Court in Oshawa.
Now this all sounds nice and very protective of the rights and best wishes of children.

Can the Office of the Children’s Lawyer (OCL) Provide Unbiased Evaluation?

In my view and experience the answer is NO.  The OCL, or Office of the Children’s Lawyer, allows for the unfair discrimination of men with regards to investigating the best interests of children.
Some years ago my children’s mother abandoned them leaving when one child was only 2 years old.  The mother at that time wanted nothing to do with the children.  A few years later when she realized that she would have to pay child support she began to fight for the kids.  The OCL, or Office of the Children’s Lawyer, got involved using a social worker based out of Oshawa Family Court.  At the time I was naive thinking that I had nothing to fear, how wrong I was.  Father discrimination is rampant in Durham Region and supported by the Durham Children’s Aid Society, the OCL or Office of the Children’s Lawyer and the court system.  I met this woman at my front door, long silver hair pulled tight in to a ponytail.  She stood straight and ridged like an army sergeant.  There was no doubt in my mind that this woman was burned by a man and she was out exact revenge.  She was cold, short and extremely condescending.  She could care less about the children and what was making them happy and only probed in to the failure of the marriage.  This woman hated men and it showed.  I had visions of the wicked witch of the East burning her bra back in the 70’s. But, as I sat there talking with her I thought that I was going to have a fair evaluation of my circumstances.  Was I wrong!  This woman not only reported a completely biased view of what was going on she out right lied.  This social worker who hated men and had an axe to grind wanted to take out her revenge on all the men out there.  She wrote such foul lies about me, the father of these children who solely provided for them for over 4 years, in her report to the court I had to take action.

How to file a response to the OCL report?

The only course of action I could take was to file a response to this outrageous report.  Unlike the social workers report, my report was exact and factual and removed of emotional bias.  Issue after issue I painted a clear picture of what actually happened, then I filed it.  The OCL or Office of the Children’s Lawyer received my response and simply ignored it.  They responded back, not that I expected anything different, without issue of the original report. They were ok with lies and half truths.

Oshawa Family Court

I will say that the judges, and there were a few, that read both the OCL, or Office of the Children’s Lawyer, report and my response to it all came to the same general view.  The Office of the Children’s Lawyer is not always right and there views can be biased, they dismissed the report.
Men, fathers, when you are fighting for your children remember this.  You will NOT get any support from the system including the Office of the Children’s Lawyer, the Durham Children’s Aid Society and other services provided in Durham Region.  You will need to fight hard and more importantly smarter.  Find a good lawyer in Durham Region, and that’s hard to do, that understands how to fight for fathers.
Good luck with your battle!

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16 Comments

  • Kevin
    May 5, 2010 at 8:31 am

    I can totally relate to this… has any guy ever had a fair shake with OCL?

  • Thun
    December 13, 2010 at 1:09 am

    I am a Mother I agree that CAS and OCL fight against Fathers

    Women need to STOP supporting this male hating feminist system or they too will loose their children . Their children will hate them later in life for NOT supporting the fathers they love
    Children NEED fathers

  • Jules
    March 2, 2011 at 8:25 am

    Hello, it is truly unfair when anyone is bios do to their sex.
    A good parent should be viewed as such.
    I am considering childrens lawyer OCL but ive been advised not to.
    I really dont know if i should get one, ive been told that they will look at the best interest of the child to have both parents in her life and will not look at the fact that the child gave a disclosure of sexual molestation by her father, which she only gave the disclosure to me her mom.
    Im so un sure on what to do.

  • Mark
    March 2, 2011 at 8:51 am

    Jules,

    I have also had very bad experiences with both OCL (Office of the children’s lawyer) and DCAS (Durham Children’s Aid Society) and I’m a guy.

    In my mind they all suffer the same problem. For them this is a job and they have to keep that job going. So they end up creating problems more often then fixing them. Finding a good lawyer in Oshawa or the whole Durham Region is tough. I’ve had 3 lawyers and them too are all in it for the money.

    Good luck in your fight and let us know how things work out through here..

  • Maggie O
    March 13, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    Ya Bea, the most biased, unprofessional, lying, schemiming, egotistical ocl I ever met.

  • Michael
    August 13, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    Very interesting, has anybody had any recent encounters with Bea since 2011? I have concerns about some things that I’ve experienced and am just curious how many people’s families she may have affected.

  • margie
    September 27, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    How do we sleep at night? I think there needs to be a review of the
    office of the ocl.This is the lives of children, the future of our society we’re playing with.

  • John
    December 5, 2012 at 11:19 am

    I all so had a bad experience with bea Hancock . Something has to be done we should start a petition. everything on this site is bang on. I’ve been threatened, accused ,lied too , lectured, bullied . BeEWARE. Of this Bea Hancock refuse to let her to do accesment. You will be made to look like a criminal if you of the male gender . Beware….

  • Susie
    December 13, 2012 at 7:47 pm

    There are always two sides to every story so to believe one person without hearing the other side is unfair. Through my experience with Bea I found her to be a little harsh but extremely fair. Her recommendations were for joint/shared custody with 50/50 access to both parents. Even though you can’t get any more fair than that the father in the case is choosing to dispute the matter anyways, claiming that her report was biased. This father truly believes he is in the right and the mother truly believes she is in the right. Bea spent many hours weeding through the he said she said stuff and based her recommendations on what she herself observed and through interviews with grandparents, caregivers, school principals and doctor’s she then drew her conclusion. She chose what she saw best for the children. The father is calling her a lier but he sees only what he wants to see through his false sense of what truth actually is.

  • James
    January 7, 2013 at 3:59 pm

    It’s unreal to see the amount of ppl that have had the same experience as I have. I too got shafted by Bea and the “system”. My ex was essentially homeless bouncing between homes of friends/family. I had a good job, my own place, great family support etc. Bea did her work, investigated me and the ex, and came to the conclusion that the child would be in good hands with either parent. She then suggested that the ex get custody and I get visitation. Did she not realize that my daughter was homeless?! That the ex is clearly vindictive?! Either way that was over 2 years ago.

    Now the ex is tried to charge me with sexual assault on my daughter after an altercation on thanksgiving (which Iv been cleared of by the CAS and police), has denied my visitations since that point (Iv seeng girl for 1hr at CAS before Christmas, that’s it!!!) and is currently coaching my daughter and scaring the living shit out of her to make my daughter fear me. It’s absolutely disgusting!!!

    I’m on here today to ask for advise. I’m at a complete loss as what to do. Iv hired a reputable law firm from Toronto, but am unsure as to how much they give a fuck about my case. I have done a lot of research In parental alienation and contempt of court cases. My question to everyone who cares to adress it is: does anyone know of a good course of action to get my daughter back? Does anyone know any reputable psychiatrists that are sympathetic towards fathers and not biased towards the mothers as is the norm? The system sucks. Us fathers continually get the shaft in the process, and the vindictive mothers feel that they hold all the power in the world. Justice my ass!!

    Sincey:
    One Distraught Dad

  • Kenneth Reid
    January 20, 2013 at 11:09 am

    OCL In Durham is corrupt and does not follow the rights of the children ,or parents …..Bias all the way specially the OCL that was hired at my request to the judge ,but little I knew that the court there allows DCAS to hire them…Ex Members of the CAS …should not be OCL lawyers ..as for the PCA reports done is also Bias …I have searched Can LI law and found out that the one in my case was professional hater towards men …I would also add why the courts in Oshawa allow DCAS to run there brand new state of the art court ,why doesn’t the court send you dates to the hearings besides CAS…This is how I lost my trial because DCAS Lawyer gave me multiple dates to confuse me and missed my date ..how can the courts allow DCAS to crown ward children with out it done in front of the judge with all parties(joint custody ) I did not agree to the facts or the crown ward ship …How can the judge Scott lied to me in her court knowing the laws…I challanged the court with unregistered social workers in 2012 and the judge knowing I am not a lawyer told me this is a college law …she is so wrong …its is a provincial law put in place in 1998 and made a provincial law in 2000 so this judge didn’t know this 12 yrs later or did she just played me because I was not a lawyer this is not a fair judge who sides with DCAS for funding

  • Yvette
    February 5, 2013 at 6:57 am

    I completely disagree with comments about OCL and Bea. However I agree with the biased opinion in Durham. I am a woman and I wanted joint access and joint custody of my child. I am a believer of child being in both parents life. Anyway Durham because I am Asian and my ex is Caucasian was awarded temporary sole custody to my ex. I was asked how I’m going to provide for my daughter, how long I’ve been in the country and if I married my husband then to stay in the country. I tried fighting discrimination but four year later enlisted OCL. Yes Bea was tough. Her interrogation made me cry harder each time but she is assessing what is best interest of child . Anyway I was born here and been in the country for 30 years . Unfortunately I speak with an accent as I speak multiple languages. As for Bea , tough.but she is there for best interest of child. Parents have to put anger, hurt etc and put best Oscar show for the best interest of child. Don’t make child take sides. It is not child’s fault if parents don’t get along. They are not trophy to be won.

  • Shocked
    July 28, 2013 at 9:33 am

    I am in shock at the comments made here about Bea. I don’t think I have ever posted to a forum such as this before but I cannot stop myself this time. Bea changed my children’s lives for the better and I must stand up for her. My case was quite some time ago and my oldest child is graduating high school and going on to University in the fall, which is why I was thinking of Bea and googled her to find out if she was still with the OCL. I am so proud of my children and feel so blessed that Bea saw the truth in my case and made the correct decision so my children had the best possible upbringing, and now are going on with successful lives. I felt she was extremely professional, articulate and was excellent at seeing through the ‘crap’ that all of these cases put forward (usually by both sides, its hard not to get caught up in the drama) and seeing who people genuinely are and what their interests and intentions are towards the children. My ex brought in the OCL to our case and I was so scared! When I first met Bea I was even more scared…she comes across as someone who has seen and heard it all, likely because she has…it would be hard to be in this field without becoming somewhat cold, so many disfunctional situations out there and the children always pay the price. By the end of our first meeting I felt much better, I felt she was professional and curt but that she would also be fair and that she would do what was best for my children. And she did. I am in shock that so many people are complaining about her when all I have done for the past 12 years is thank God that she was assigned to my case and that she made the decisions she did that resulted in my children who had ‘issues’ at the time to grow up into happy, well-adjusted, successful and secure young adults with bright futures. Well done Bea…don’t listen to the haters.

  • Greg
    January 16, 2014 at 2:23 pm

    I had the extreme misfortune of dealing with Bea Hancock as well. She is without a doubt a man-hater and made a recommendation the was clearly biased. Fortunately for me, the judge ignored her recommendation and the children remained with me. My ex-wife was basically a useless parent. The children were struggling on multiple fronts while in her care. She heard testimony from the teachers, principal, acknowledged that my home was more structured and that the children were doing better in my care and then promptly recommended that the children be returned to their mother. My ex lost custody of them because she left town without telling me, the school, the courts or my lawyer. The lack of structure resulted in double digit school absence, poor grades, poor behavior including fighting. I was truly shocked as was my lawyer.
    She should be removed from any position even resembling a social worker dealing with the best interests of the children. The only people on this forum that think she isn’t biased are all women by the way.

  • Kenneth Reid
    February 4, 2014 at 10:39 pm

    Anyone that is fighting against the corruption in Durham by DCAS,I have a lot of information for you (ex)….sunshine lists, Review board notes CFSRB,recordings ,documentations,College of social workers and services workers ……Leslie Lemay Is not a registered worker ,Wendy Traynor is not registered …supervisor Theresa Ducey suspended since 2003 not registered …..I also have links to various sites that I have proven my story …..http://www.canlii.org/en/on/oncfsrb/doc/2012/2012cfsrb17/2012cfsrb17.html Durham Cas CFSRB

    http://www.canlii.org/en/on/oncfsrb/doc/2008/2008cfsrb87/2008cfsrb87.html?searchUrlHash=AAAAAQAOay5yIHZzIHJlbmZyZXcAAAAAAQ Renfrew CAS CFSRB

    http://fixcas.com/cgi-bin/go.py?2013d.Pembroke2 Durham CAS

    http://fixcas.com/cgi-bin/go.py?2013c.Yakabuski Durham CAS ,Pembroke

    http://fixcas.com/cgi-bin/go.py?2013c.Krstanovska Durham CAS

    http://fixcas.com/cgi-bin/go.py?2013b.Krstanovska Durham CAS

    http://fixcas.com/cgi-bin/go.py?2013a.Nabigon Disregarding the truth and the Law

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4RvatNo1Jk Bill 42 second reading

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKcOn8EXd_E Frank Klee’s CAS

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMFt7dLr_Xk The Purifcation Ceremony

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s3dAeun7mI Pembroke Rally

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5mKSKq87_Y My dedication For my boys and the cause

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq7XvRMeZcA Curtis Kingston Accountability

    I want to thank everyone for listening in and fighting for our rights as fathers …

    Online Other talk Music – Live365 Internet Radio – Gentleman’s Forumwww.live365.com[pre-recorded] Please welcome Kenneth to the mic! He will share his experience of his Divorce in Canada & CAS; parental alienation. Expose http://www.live365.com/index.live

    Bill 42 Oversite of the private sectors …..Lets get our children back home and have them all accountable for there actions Thank You

  • cherri
    March 22, 2014 at 1:34 pm

    Try to do more homework on the OCL before you make general statements. Child abuse is investigated by the CAS and the police (if charges are to be laid). OCL does not have the authority to overruled investigations, but can use it to help make their decisions. OCL does not represent parents,they represent the children. OCL assumes that both parents should be in the child’s life unless evidence is found in police report,cas records or. Medical records to suggest otherwise. Also, just because a man has money,it does not mean he’s a good father. Similarly, just because a woman is homeless,it does not mean she is not a good mother. We know many women leave a relationship due to abuse etc. If she was being supported by her abusive partner, chance is she would be homeless until she get a place of her own. OCL reports are based on evidence collected. You may not like the outcome,but as long as it is best for the child,it is OK.

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